Episode Transcript
[00:00 - 00:21] Michael: Or they're starting their conversation? Well, in my experience. You do realize your experience has been this weekend. Basically, it's for a day, but my dad had a zero micron gap. It was the only one that had this. They were the ones that were placed in the trails for all the digital damage. I'm an outlier. Let's be honest, 90 plus percent of the dentists out there do not have a fully digital lab.
[00:21 - 00:37] Michael: I'm talking about mills and everything in their office. And the knowledge is growing. This is what's good for dentistry.
[00:37 - 01:00] Rob: Welcome back to the Evolution of Dental Podcast. Brought to you by Evolution Dental Science, where we share the stories of the people and the technology shaping the world of dentistry. So most implant courses hand you a plastic jaw and a hotel room. My guest today built a campus in Pueblo, Mexico, where you place implants in live patients over four days straight.
[01:00 - 01:08] Rob: The whole operation that funds the mission work he does down there as well. Please welcome doctor Michael Worley. How are you? Welcome to the podcast.
[01:08 - 01:09] Michael: Thanks for having me.
[01:09 - 01:13] Michael: I really appreciate it. It's great to be here.
[01:13 - 01:18] Rob: We're happy to have you. So how did you get connected with evolution? Dental science?
[01:18 - 01:37] Michael: You know, it's funny, I was in Mexico, but in a different part of Mexico. I was at a dental meeting in Cancun and with Midwest Dental and Tim Cooley, who was the head of sales there. And I've been working with them for 20 years. So I knew walking up that you guys were from Buffalo, but Andy didn't know that.
[01:37 - 01:57] Michael: So he started a civil, polite conversation. And then about halfway in, Tim says, Hey, Tim. Tim says to Andy, you realize we're going to what? And he goes, all buffalo on me. You know, he'd start talking. Bill's we start talking sabers. We might have used some inappropriate language because that's what you do when you're from Buffalo, from the inner city.
[01:57 - 02:14] Michael: And that's where I'm from. I'm from the West Side. I was raised on the west side of Buffalo. I went away to college in dental school. And it's so great to be back, but it's great to find I made the joke with him at the time because I built what's arguably the best dental training implant training organization in the world.
[02:14 - 02:28] Michael: And Andy's building was arguably one of the best dental labs in the world that two guys from Buffalo that took this strange path away from each other. Now we're working together very happily and on this new project that's just fantastic.
[02:28 - 02:32] Rob: All the way back around the world together. That's pretty wild.
[02:33 - 02:54] Rob: So I'm a lab guy and I spend most of my days with Cat on the restorative side, which means I usually get to meet your students like six weeks after they've left you. And that's when the cases land on my bench. So let me let me start there. What about live cases? What does that teach your students that say regular coursework never could?
[02:55 - 03:17] Michael: It's completely different at the center. What we teach down there because we're over the shoulder. And what I did when I was starting this out as I went to other live training courses, even those live training courses do not do it exactly the same way as that that I do. I've been told that I'm a militant, that I run a boot camp down there, that I should have called it Worlds Boot Camp, which I really considered in the beginning because I have no problem with that.
[03:17 - 03:34] Michael: My wife and I, on the phone, say, if you're expecting half a vacation, you're coming to the wrong place. If you expect alcohol and drinking at night, you're coming to the wrong place. Hey, you guys want to have a drink? We'll have the party afterwards. Well, we're down there, though, working 15 hours a day. It's all business.
[03:34 - 03:52] Michael: We never leave the campus and all the courses. The cases are arranged ahead of time so that the patients are lined up so you can work on live training. And we. We arranged it all in. This may sound simple, but so that it's kindergarten, first grade, second grade, and third grade. And what I mean by that, I mean that the cases.
[03:52 - 04:15] Michael: I have a full dental office down there and a full dental lab. Now that you guys helped me to put together that that editor's trained my staff, so we know what they were doing down there so that we could put great restorations in these patients' mouths. Because of that, I have a constant flow and we align our patients in a nice big fat ranch, plenty of tissue and that, oh, a little less tissue.
[04:15 - 04:32] Michael: Oh, oh, there's no tissue and there's no ridge. There's just that. And you learn as you go along. How is that different from other courses? Other courses? It's just a cattle call. They'll go into some little village and they'll say, hey, everyone, come on down. And whoever lines up first, you know, the first person needs a lateral sinus lip.
[04:32 - 04:51] Michael: Well, little Billy the dentist has never done a lateral sinus lift as he never placed an implant. So his first case is going to be lateral. This poor planning dooms the doctor for failure. They're going to fail badly. Or they're going to watch their instructor do it. They can do that on YouTube. So it's all the planning and the and the fully that goes.
[04:51 - 05:12] Michael: And that's because this is a ministry for me. We built this place as a ministry where I had no vision at all for anything that involved implants or money or anything else. But when we got it built, we realized that you needed money to run this place. And I was sitting down checking $10,000 a month. And my wife said, you know, bankrupting the family was not much of a business plan.
[05:12 - 05:32] Michael: So we built the course 12 years ago. Now, based upon that principle is its business as mission. So the money from the ministry goes back from the business goes back into the ministry so that we can do water projects. The biggest thing we can do is rebuild an orphanage. And that's been a lot of fun.
[05:32 - 05:54] Michael: And now we're going to go to the next orphanage, the next orphans, extras. I've started a 5013 C and it just all blends together. But as far as their experience goes, it's completely contained. You don't ever have to leave the building, let alone the property. I have the best food in the world, the best training. And we go from seven in the morning till 10:00 at night.
[05:54 - 06:23] Michael: And when they come back, the thing I heard most often is that the students will come to breakfast like the third or fourth single. Man, I was dreaming about implants last night. That's immersion. That's when you know you've done it right. And that's kind of the learning experience they get. And then when they come back, I align them with the Evolved Dental Lab, and I give them the information so that they can get good restorations, because if you don't have a good restoration on top of the implant, the implant is going to fail.
[06:23 - 06:47] Michael: Then you say, oh, you're training. Are the implants lousy? No, the restoration was because you don't understand the principles behind all this, because it's a completely different thing. And you can't teach all of the implants in four days. I'm lucky to teach as much as I can about surgery. So we stayed connected afterwards. We have study clubs that phone calls, emails where they send me to cases.
[06:47 - 07:05] Michael: It's not like every other course in the world. When you sign up, you pay for it the second you leave your commitments done to them. This is a ministry on that level, to my ministry there is to teach these people. Right? So, it's quite the adventure that's a little bit different than most other of these cases where they come in and hey, that's fine.
[07:05 - 07:18] Michael: You wouldn't have a case. That's great. You want to go out at night and have a couple of cocktails and then be a little bit hung over the next day, a little slow the next day? That's fine man. That's your experience. It's just never going to be mine.
[07:18 - 07:36] Rob: Yeah. It sounds like you've really built something first off inspired. And it's amazing how the Lord provides these sorts of things. Like everything kind of feeds back into itself. And, that's, that's really beautiful. And one of the things you're saying there just made me think of a line. It was one of our earlier episodes, John Madden.
[07:37 - 07:53] Rob: But he said there are dentists, they can place implants, and there are some dentists that understand implant dentistry. And that what you were saying with the 15 hour immersion really reminded me of that. What was it like seeing some of these doctors cross that line for the first time?
[07:53 - 08:17] Michael: That's my joy. You know it. Most of these courses are for the person who always wants to teach the biggest cases in the best cases, and you learn from all these big and best cases. You get better, better, better, better, better. I'm very good at implants, but I still love teaching the newbies. I love taking them from knowing nothing and their hands shaking the first day and all that, and they're drenching and then seen on the last day.
[08:17 - 08:36] Michael: By four days later they're talking smack to me. They're like, oh, I got this, I got this like that. Or they're, they're, they're starting their conversation. Well, in my experience, you do realize your experience has been this weekend. Basically it's four days. But that's beautiful. I love that man because that's what we all should be doing. Now that other people of some speciality give me some great.
[08:36 - 08:53] Michael: I said we take something else, I do it and I say to him all the time, I said, you know what? You're very good at implantation. You heck, you're probably smarter than I am in some way, shape or form. And what did you do with that knowledge? You kept it for yourself. What I do with this knowledge and the knowledge of all the instructors that I have.
[08:53 - 09:14] Michael: There are incredible instructors and an incredible team. We give it away freely to these people, and we teach them and teach them. And the knowledge is growing. This is what's good for dentistry. Holding back knowledge is like holding, trying to hold back time or tide. It's a fool's errand and they do it because of ego. They do it because of greed.
[09:14 - 09:33] Michael: They do it because of belief. Well, only this person should do this. And this person said last time I checked, when we went to all the Devils school, we were just knuckleheads that got out of college. If we were lucky and none of us knew anything about him. There's nothing magical about being a periodontist surgeon except for that they did get the proper training to place the implants.
[09:33 - 09:54] Michael: I give them that kudos all day long. That's fantastic. And that's what's incumbent on the students that come to my courses. And then that's why I tell us that after this, go join the ID. The ID is fantastic. The American Academy of Implant Dentistry, it's the best place to learn about dentistry afterwards. And I now do an all star course with them.
[09:54 - 10:17] Michael: I'm doing an excellent twice a year and that's so cool. We did that as a fundraiser for the A, D and for the orphanage. We give 80% to the aid and 20% to the orphanage, but I get the best instructors in the world. These are the biggest speakers off the stage and they all come down and they all say, I don't forget last year, Robert Miller, God bless him, he just passed this year.
[10:17 - 10:37] Michael: He gave me the man shake and he wouldn't let go. And he goes, I've lectured everywhere, boy. And I'm telling you, there's nothing like this in the world. You're doing the right thing for the right reasons. And this is really awesome. And something like that. A compliment man who lived his life for implants. That means more to me than all the money in the world.
[10:37 - 10:57] Michael: And when you're serving God and you're serving Christ, you're bringing together the body of Christ, all these different people with all these skills. That is my real skill set. I'm not the greatest implant, but I might be the greatest implant team builder that's ever been. And I'll take that accolade all day long.
[10:58 - 11:08] Rob: What a blessing. That's incredible. Like the to to to be able to be in the intersection of all that and bring these people together.
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[11:25 - 11:40] Rob: New episodes drop every Friday. Follow us on all the socials. You'll see all the latest content. Looking forward to seeing you there. So Puebla, Mexico. That wasn't the convenient choice. Like why? Why Pueblo Mexico instead of somewhere else?
[11:40 - 11:57] Michael: Because when I came to Christ in 2002, because I wasn't always a Christian, I was atheist agnostic. I was making my church crazy because I had so much energy, because this is me at 63 back there 20 years ago, I was I was, I was nuclear, it was scary. I was like, we got to do something.
[11:57 - 12:19] Michael: They said, great. We got this mission trip going to Pueblo, Mexico with 25 do students and you. So I went on this trip and it was so funny. The medical doctors didn't want to, you know, they're like, oh, you're just a dentist. And then I, I'd already been on mission trips for years because I ran those even as an atheist. I went with other people and did this because a patient asked me to go.
[12:19 - 12:32] Michael: So I was used to running these in the doctor so I know how to run a trip. So I set up for trips as four chairs in a circle, and I would. I would shoot from a chair and I'd be rolling around back and forth shopping like, what's the basket? Nothing here. Nothing here. Nothing here. Pull it here.
[12:32 - 12:41] Michael: Pull it here. Pull it here. Teeth are flying everywhere. And you're. You're trying to solve all these problems as fast as you can because there's so many people lined up. So that night, the kids go, oh.
[12:41 - 12:41] Rob: My.
[12:41 - 13:05] Michael: God, that was amazing. Whoa, whoa, what was that? I go, that's dentistry, man. I'm a des. I'm a doctor of dental surgery. And that was the beginning of that when I saw it because I'd already gotten tired of just pulling teeth. So I got together with a couple other guys and I said, we have to build something lasting where we can actually rebuild the cases.
[13:05 - 13:25] Michael: And I was the only dentist who was a missionary and a businessman, and we came together with God's guidance. And we built this center a little piece at the time and bigger and bigger and bigger. And every game I'm building, I'm building, I'm adding more hotel rooms as we speak and more air conditioners and more and more of this and there's always something being built between courses.
[13:25 - 13:27] Michael: It's always getting bigger.
[13:27 - 13:35] Rob: That's that's incredible. So I'm guessing the expansion of it really helped you support the overall mission. Right.
[13:36 - 13:58] Michael: That's exactly the idea is, is the money does it. Oh you mentioned I forgot to mention this. People don't understand Mexico. So like how do you go to Mexico because you're going to get robbed and killed and all that stuff, all that horrible things we hear. It's like telling me having such a how could this in US standards be if you got mugged in Central Park, would you be afraid to go to Kansas City?
[13:58 - 14:18] Michael: There are two different geographies. Probably up at 7000ft. It's a 700 zero foot dead end for the narcos. The narcos are immoral. They're not stupid. They make the drugs in Guatemala, and they want to get it to the U.S. border as fast as possible. They're not going up 7000ft and back down 7000ft to get over here. So we don't have any of those problems.
[14:18 - 14:45] Michael: And the economy is driven by the car companies. Their boat wagon has the largest plant outside of, outside of Germany. And now all these are built there. They have 16 dental schools in LA. They have 160 universities in Pueblo. This is all up in a confined space up there. People don't leave this area. So I've got an incredibly educated and oh, by the way, it's like the same whether it's San Diego.
[14:45 - 15:01] Michael: So I mean it's just wonderful all the way around. It's just fantastic. But yes, the ministry does it. That's why I built it, specifically why I built the implant course and we just built it the first time I had five people come. Then I had six people come, then I had seven people come.
[15:01 - 15:09] Michael: It's taken years to get to where we're selling out, you know, six courses a year. But, it's been a journey, that's for sure.
[15:09 - 15:16] Rob: Selling out six courses of the year. So, like, what kind of, what kind of draw? How many, how many doctors do you have per course?
[15:16 - 15:35] Michael: Anywhere from 16 to 20, depending upon the size of the course that I'm running. Wow. Yeah. So we're doing about 120 doctors a year out there. I've got 700 graduates now, and I just add another 100 every year. And, it's become quite the community and quite the family. It's kind of great.
[15:35 - 15:39] Rob: That's incredible. That sounds like a lot to juggle, though.
[15:39 - 15:56] Michael: I'm the busiest mayor I've ever met. I'm going to have to pull back at some point. I think I'm going to have to semi-retire from dentistry. I may not look it, but I'm 63 and I've been doing dentistry for almost 40 years. I still love it, but I just got certified which means that I'm at the highest level of implants.
[15:56 - 16:18] Michael: Thank you Jesus. That was a tough task. These guys make it hard on you. But it was great. So I'm going to start an implant practice inside of my regular dental practice. And I'll have to give away the regular dentistry so that I can do the cases in Mexico, the case of the big cases in my office, and maybe cut back to maybe just 50 hours a week instead of 80.
[16:18 - 16:20] Rob: Yeah. Just 50. Yeah. Okay.
[16:20 - 16:23] Michael: That's my retirement dream.
[16:23 - 16:30] Rob: Well, I mean, you certainly seem to have a you certainly seem to have the energy of an 18 year old. So, you know, I, I can see why you wouldn't be able to.
[16:30 - 16:37] Michael: And the maturity of an 18 year old had been told, I know that same thing. But then we're all from Buffalo. So it's the way it is.
[16:37 - 16:54] Rob: It's the way it is. So one of the, one of the things, like before we get to phone, because I could go off forever on the mission work because I, I'm so incredibly inspired by this, and I've got to come up with a good excuse to come down and visit you in Pueblo because this I got, I have I want to see this for myself.
[16:54 - 16:56] Rob: And I hope that's not too crazy. Oh.
[16:56 - 16:56] Michael: Come.
[16:56 - 17:18] Rob: Now, that would be incredible to see. And hopefully we can feel like a little on site video at some point. But for everyone watching, a lot of folks know that this is also a launch conversation and that. So let's pretend that people are scrolling through and this is the only segment they get to see, because that's how people are with social media.
[17:18 - 17:26] Rob: What about buying into? Can you tell our audience what made you want to associate with their implants and why?
[17:26 - 17:41] Michael: I've been working with a couple of other implant companies and I'm not going to catch these. And then they all got their positives and negatives, but none of them were my favorite except bio dentist. So I was talking to Andy the other day on the phone and I was saying, you know, I really want to work with these other companies.
[17:41 - 17:55] Michael: I really want to just, just just do this, this, this. He goes to just tell me, because you just got to know Andy. He's just filling out as they get. Just tell me what you love and we can do that. You're Mike Worley. You got this big institute. You work with the aid. You do this in that week.
[17:55 - 18:19] Michael: We can. We can make this work with all the contacts between the two of us. I said I can't have the best implant I want. The best implant I ever used was a bio dentist. Bio dentist was the first implant I reused when I started doing this implant training way back when, because they were in the US market. Then they left the US market ten years ago because they were the ones that were blazing the trails for all the digital dentistry.
[18:19 - 18:37] Michael: Everybody out there doing digital dentistry owes something to Biogen because they're the ones that started it for us. They got the whole ball rolling of the digital workflow and things like that. The problem is they spent so much time, effort and money on that. They ran out of funds and they had to leave the US market. And this happened ten years ago.
[18:38 - 18:59] Michael: So the only amount I have in my practice or Pueblo or my other instructors who did this to these are all ten years old. So these are like, oh, summer, two years summer. No, they're all ten years old. And they don't die. They don't go away. They don't fail like I have. Old implants are 97, 90% successful.
[18:59 - 19:21] Michael: I'm like, I don't know about that. I watched the numbers and I saw the truth and the courses and this and that and I saw complications. You're kind of a number with bio dentists really is true. Once it integrates, once it gets past the first 90 days, anything can die in 90 days due to surgical failures, too much heat, too much pressure, too much to which once it gets in, man, these things don't die.
[19:21 - 19:44] Michael: And a lot of times the bone actually grows up the implant because it's got the tightest connection out there. Holger zip Rich was the guy that did all the great gap measurements. Whatever. You see the zipper, which always makes me look at the broader films and watch these things. It shows. The movement bio had a zero micron gap. It was the only one that had this.
[19:44 - 20:04] Michael: It also finished the machine. The collar machine finishes the way to go when it interacts right at the crash with the soft tissue and the artist you. If you polish smooth and fully polished, it's too smooth and the tissue is going to die down. It's never attached that if you put titanium all the way up, which most of them do for that maximum integration, that's great.
[20:04 - 20:24] Michael: Until the bone dies back down there, we know. Although if you replace an implant, it's more than five years. You know that the bone dies down, it's an implant, then it's going to go running down. Those implants and implants can fail when it hits this buffer zone. This machine finished collar and bio again. It stops right there. And sometimes, because the collar is sustainable, it actually grows up.
[20:24 - 20:44] Michael: I'm not going to say that there's no failures with bio denim. That'd be disingenuous. But you're asking me why I use it. It's because once you get them in, they fail less than any other implant system that I've seen, and they're easy to place. And there's a very limited stock. You're only using like three different sizes. There's five different sizes, but you're all using three of them to affect the other 2 or 5%.
[20:44 - 21:06] Michael: Time again I teach newbies how to place small amounts of stock. You're not intimidated by having to buy stuff ahead of time and they don't fail. That's the holy grail, man, especially when you power it in with all the soft tissue concepts we've learned from the zero bone loss concept. He's just a genius, by the way. I'm trying to get him to win the next prize.
[21:06 - 21:11] Michael: And they I need for developments in implant.
[21:11 - 21:29] Michael: Link. Excuse me. The author, he's just fantastic. You put all this together, you've got a great implant that doesn't fail. It's easy to place and it's not overpriced. So I told Andy all this, and he said, well, yeah, but you never know what's to give him a call. And I said, all right, I'll make some phone calls, but nothing's going to happen.
[21:30 - 21:52] Michael: I'll be gone if, after a couple of phone calls, they did the research on Andy and I, they said, you know what? If you guys will champion our cause, then. Then if we can work with evolve and editors and Mike worldly and the world, the Implant Institute, then we will come back into the US market. And then when they were coming back, I said, well, as long as you're coming back, I really like you.
[21:52 - 22:09] Michael: It's your specialty parts that were cool for some of the other stuff that I work with. All these other companies would never do that. And here's just the reality of it. They're all making so much money because the profits are so good. God bless them, that's fine. But then they get lazy and they don't want to build new parts and new pieces, because why should they?
[22:09 - 22:28] Michael: They're already making money. This guy knows that he wants excellence too. So he's already built me a couple of different parts. He rebuilt the whole MUA platform and it was a great platform. It was just a little off. It used a one, two, three screw instead of a 1.4. 1.4 is not working in the US market anymore.
[22:28 - 22:54] Michael: I mean, at 1.3 dozen, 1.4, whatever one's using at least. But Chad had changed the whole engineering, the whole platform, everything. He did all that in two months. No one else out there is doing this with Patrick. Patrick is fantastic as the owner of biodata. So you got a great plan and you got an implant that's willing to listen to the market and actually build the implant that we need.
[22:54 - 23:13] Michael: What's your name? Could ask for this guy. Well, you could ask them to give back to mankind just like I've done here with the, the stuff that I've done. So when I started this with Andy, I said, Andy, I'm only going to get involved if we will both tie the top 10% of the top, not what's left over after our luncheons and this that.
[23:13 - 23:32] Michael: So we both agree to take no money out of this implant for the first year, and then at the end of the year, whatever the amount we have, it's $10,000. Then the first 100 are going to go to charity and mankind. Now, if it's going to be more than $10,000. But what company back there is tithing 10% back to mankind.
[23:32 - 23:53] Michael: So you're giving back, you got a great implant, you're willing to grow it. This is what I'm going to work on for the rest of my life. I am super excited about this. And I'm happy to be with biodata and with evolve and Andy and Patrick and, I think it's the best implant out there. And if it's not, we'll, by God, be going to make the changes to make it there.
[23:53 - 24:09] Michael: And then what? It is the best. It's going to stay in there like it does. And we're going to give some of the money back to that guy. Because if you if, if all you're doing, I've been a desk for all you're doing is just taking more money and more money, when is that whole going to be filled?
[24:09 - 24:26] Michael: You start giving it away to your fellow man and watching the impact you can have. When you see a kid drink fresh water for the first time, you see an orphan in a safe situation. You take them and all these things. That's what's going to fill that gaping hole inside of you. I know because I got the same hole as anybody else.
[24:26 - 24:31] Michael: You fill it with Jesus Christ and you feel when you love your fellow man, and that's what will heal you.
[24:31 - 24:51] Rob: That's incredible. I truly am the Lord's work. That's unbelievably incredible that it almost sounds too good to be true, especially especially the level of so many of the, I'll name names, but everyone who knows knows so many of these implant companies out there literally just tweak their design just so that they can get around having other people copy their parts.
[24:51 - 25:06] Rob: And it just, again, let's print more money where it sounds like this company, correct me if I'm wrong, is actually adapting to what the market wants to try and make it more simple and available to integrate with. Right?
[25:06 - 25:07] Michael: That's exactly it.
[25:07 - 25:32] Rob: Amazing. So tell me a little bit about the other half here if you would. So I mean lots of good talk about, you know, the stability of these implants, the onset of integration, obviously, the fact that they're willing to listen to you in the market to add parts and integrations. So your students go home and they place these implants for the first time, and then they hand the case off to the lab.
[25:33 - 25:37] Rob: What's the laboratory side look like for the technician that sees it on their bench for the first time?
[25:37 - 25:56] Michael: You better understand. Now biotin is a little bit more difficult to restore. And that's why I work with Andy because there's three different platforms now. The B zero is kind of like your mini. So they don't use that that often. So let's be fair. It's really two platforms. But even though that is B1 and B2 of those, the B2 has three implants.
[25:56 - 26:12] Michael: It has the four one, the four eight and the six zero. So three quarters of it's going to be B2. But the bottom line is you've got to know these things and you've got which part you can put in here because your connection is going to be so stable. You got a huge head start in that because it's got that great micro gap.
[26:12 - 26:31] Michael: Problem solved. But you need somebody who knows how to build a lab restoration. You need somebody who knows how to make a custom abutment because you're never going to be perfect. You need a great lab. So fortunately and now I built my own lab in my office and I built it. And by the way, Andy and Evolved Dental helped me to train my people.
[26:31 - 26:34] Michael: They don't hold back that knowledge either. They say it's okay.
[26:34 - 26:49] Rob: If you're looking for greater control and flexibility within your digital design workflow, schedule a meeting with me or send us a direct message. I'll personally walk you through CAD, help you understand the available options to choose the right configuration for your lab or your practice.
[26:49 - 27:05] Michael: We'll teach you how to do it, because you're always going to run at an end to your knowledge and what your knowledge runs out. We're the guys. You're going to go trap that. And they're exactly right. They're exactly who I use. And for that reason, why wouldn't you use the guy that was kind enough to teach you and share his knowledge?
[27:05 - 27:24] Michael: I do that, so but I, I'm the outlier. Let's be honest, 90 plus percent of the dentists out there do not have a fully digital lab. I'm talking about meals and everything in their office. So for that, what they're just going to do is they're just going to take a digital scan of this thing and put that on there.
[27:24 - 27:38] Michael: And you can't put the wrong one in. It won't fit. So it's good you're going to get the right one in their color coding green, yellow and blue. All you gotta do is see the colors. And it's got a nice fur lock. I work with some companies where you go in there and you can't really tell when the above us are there.
[27:38 - 27:55] Michael: So you got a lot of missed scans. This thing goes in there and bangs, it locks right down. See, this is you know, when you put it in, you scan this, you send it to evolve and they send it back. Perfect. And if they see a problem over and over again with placement, let's just say that, you know, you wanted it right here.
[27:55 - 28:09] Michael: And then the getting, you know, billing in Ottawa. He keeps sending cases like that. They're probably going to be trained by me somewhere in this process because they're coming through my course. And even if they weren't, they're going to call me and say, hey, can you call Billy and Iowa and talk to him? I'm going to call Billy.
[28:09 - 28:22] Michael: And I was a restorative doctor and said, hey, man, I didn't teach you this. I talked about this. Talk to me about what's going on here. You're not using the implant verifier that bio specifically made to say, well, I just.
[28:22 - 28:22] Rob: Really.
[28:22 - 28:39] Michael: Need to spend time on that. What kind of. That's a closed loop, man. We actually have feedback even after the course from the lab, if the restorations are perfect and if they are perfect or good enough. Well, then we aren't calling about that.
[28:39 - 29:00] Rob: So let me see if I get this straight. You've been training on campus, an in-house lab in a country that you. I mean, I'm guessing you don't speak Spanish out of the gate. And maybe you do now. You fund the whole thing by teaching. You give you tithe, you give back to the community. What the Lord has blessed this facility with.
[29:00 - 29:17] Rob: And you, you've tied your name to this implant system, which seems incredibly exciting. And you really have developed a way of placing it and finding out where this stuff succeeds and where it fails. And sounds like you've built up a whole community. Am I missing something here? I mean, this sounds too good to be true.
[29:18 - 29:35] Michael: No? Well, I guess what you're missing is this all that is true? So you're not missing anything. People tell me all the time about these different things they do. Well, I've got a new car. I've got a new boat. I've got a new one. I've got this. I haven't missed this on the side of this. Very expensive. Whatever it is.
[29:35 - 29:58] Michael: Look, man, none of these things are going to. The thing you're missing is all this. I'm as hedonistic as everyone. I just am a smarter hedonist than all of you. Because I figured out what? Really? Cause back into your life. It's not going to be all those days. I'm a bill stand. But look, the bills aren't going to win in my lifetime anyway, so you know it's not going to be that it's giving back to your fellow man.
[29:58 - 30:11] Michael: And that's what God called us to do. So yes, I did all things. And I'm going to keep doing more and more and more because I'm so selfish and I want to keep pouring back into myself by pouring into someone else. I'm just smarter about it.
[30:12 - 30:23] Rob: Oh that's beautiful. I love that. I love that if somebody listening only takes one thing away from our whole episode together, what would you hope that one thing would be?
[30:23 - 30:37] Michael: I'd hope it would be a love of Jesus Christ and a love of your fellow man. And that's it too, is. People tell me down there for some stone cold Christian, you've noticed that, down here, my God is not afraid of your God. And don't be it. Don't be one of the religious right haters. Don't come around me.
[30:37 - 31:00] Michael: I'm not hating on something because they're muslins, because they're atheist agnostic. Hell, I was both of those things. As long as you love your fellow man, then the rest of it's going to work its way out. Yeah. I want you to come. If there's one thing, help your fellow man pour into the lives of others. Really pour in. And I'm telling you, when you start doing that, you're going to feel it start pouring back into yourself.
[31:00 - 31:25] Rob: Incredible. I couldn't agree more that there's nothing. There's nothing as beautiful as giving back and giving back through, through the spirit of, Christ. Like there's truly no sensation like that. It's unbelievable. Doctor Worley, this has been an incredible, incredible opportunity to share and talk about both the Lord's work and what you're doing here, and how other people can give back.
[31:25 - 31:36] Rob: How can people find your courses? Where do they find more information about the implants and where can they find you online?
[31:36 - 31:49] Michael: It's very simple. I'm not all over social media, so I just go to wick.org w I see that and that's my website for the course. And it's got all my information on there.
[31:49 - 32:05] Rob: If anybody has any questions about my idea, please feel free to shoot us a DM or schedule a consultation with the link in our bio. And we'd be more than happy to get you linked up and hooked up with all the appropriate implant parts and training and etc.. That's awesome. Doctor Worley, thank you so much for doing this, and thank you for being here.
[32:05 - 32:08] Rob: And thank you most of all for the work that you do.
[32:08 - 32:15] Michael: Well, thank you. As I said, I'm just a smarter, selfish person than one else. You're.
[32:15 - 32:36] Rob: And thank you, everyone for joining us for this episode of the Evolution of Dental Podcast. Please look for us on all the social media platforms as Evolution of Dental Podcast. Please remember to like, subscribe, share the show with your friends. It helps more than you know. We release episodes every Friday on all the major podcast platforms. And remember, never stop evolving.
